Chapter 3186: The Detective Shall Die (Part 48)

"Joker? Isn't his goal very clear?"

Batman shook his head and said: "The thing he wants is just what he thinks he wants. He deceived himself in the process of constant pursuit."

"You make me a bit confused." Shiler said: "Isn't the thing he thinks he wants what he wants?"

"Do you like eating apples?"

"To be honest, not really."

Batman didn't seem to expect him to answer so straightforwardly, but he still said: "What you think you like to eat apples and what you really like to eat apples are different. Before you eat apples, you sincerely feel that you like to eat apples. Does that mean you really like to eat them?"

"Joker is like this. Before he makes me truly collapse, he sincerely feels that the motivation for his living is to make me collapse, but in fact, he is not."

"How do you know he is not?"

Batman looked at him strangely again, and then said: "Should a psychiatrist think that a person living entirely for another person is healthy?"

"I am not a psychiatrist."

Batman showed a look of realization. Shiler then reacted, Batman was setting him up again!

How did the topic get to this point?

But fortunately, Batman didn't stop the conversation, he continued: "Darkseid wanting to conquer the universe looks very evil because we are standing on the side of being conquered. The instinct of survival makes us have to fight back, but his existence in that position having such an ideal is really too normal, simply healthy to the point of death."

Shiler opened his mouth. He felt that what Batman said actually made sense, but is this a bit too understanding?

"What I want to say is that position conflicts due to interests are really too normal. Greed wants to make money, I want to save people. If these two cannot be achieved at the same time, we will inevitably become opponents."

"But for Joker, there is no interest conflict between us. It is abnormal for him to become my opponent. Anyone who substitutes his perspective can't figure it out, but he just must do it."

"So you think he doesn't really want to be your opponent?"

"He is sincere, no one is more sincere than him."

Shiler was a bit confused by him. Batman wasn't just saying that Joker didn't really want to be against him, but now he said Joker was sincere.

"My meaning is, his sincerity is pathological. Just like you are crazy about wanting to eat apples, not because you really love eating apples, but because you have never eaten apples. This is an obsession, not a hobby."

Shiler suddenly realized.

He understood what Batman meant. Batman judged that Shiler was not dangerous because what Shiler wanted was his hobby. Even if it was manipulating others, it was also because he had experienced it and felt it was really interesting, so he wanted it.

He judged Joker was dangerous because what Joker wanted was just an obsession. He had never truly defeated Batman, which led to him just wanting to defeat Batman, but in fact, he had not experienced the taste of truly defeating Batman. He wanted it because he hadn't obtained it.

Joker felt empty, so he picked a goal, and he always couldn't obtain it, so he wanted it more, and then he thought he was sincerely wanting it, but in fact, it might not be.

Shiler was also the first time to know that Batman thought of Joker this way, which was completely different from the arguments that Shiler had contacted before that judged the relationship between Batman and Joker from God's perspective, very subjective.

"Why wouldn't you feel that he just happens to be interested in you?"

"He just has no other choice." Batman said: "Among all the things that might arouse his evil interest, the only one he can see, can touch, and has a glimmer of possibility to shake is me."

Shiler suddenly heard a trace of sadness from these words. It is always said that Joker is accompanying Batman to play games, but isn't Batman also accompanying Joker to play games?

Among the things that forged Joker's madness, Batman was indeed the easiest one for him to touch, and what was truly sad was that this was because Batman lowered his status and ran to the street to fight crime, otherwise there wouldn't even be this one.

"So you still have a savior complex." Shiler said slightly hesitantly: "You feel Joker should let go of his obsession and find things he really loves, instead of grabbing you and not letting go."

"I hope so, but in fact, the possibility is not great." Batman said: "Things have developed to this step, he will not stop until he reaches his goal. As long as he hasn't truly defeated me, he will definitely entangle like this endlessly, but I won't let him defeat me."

"Very good, a perfect dead end." Shiler said: "Why did you suddenly talk about this again?"

"I'm just talking about the difference between you and the truly dangerous." Batman said: "To be more specific, the difference between you and those criminals I need to treat as dangerous."

"So you didn't treat me as a dangerous criminal?" Shiler was a bit flattered, he said: "Are you sure this isn't because your vigilance has decreased?"

Batman shook his head and said: "I can clearly distinguish the difference between you, although I don't know what caused this difference for the time being."

"What difference?"

"You have a choice." Batman said: "You chose a certain path because you felt good after being satisfied, rather than grabbing a straw and not letting go when you were empty."

"If I were to use a metaphor, you are a full lion, not a hungry hyena. This determines that you are not so dangerous."

Shiler didn't speak, stared at him for a while, and said: "Wouldn't you feel that Greed is always very hungry? He wants everything, and always goes hunting with full motivation. Isn't this dangerous?"

"I can see that he hasn't experienced true emptiness and hunger." Batman said.

"How can you see this?" Shiler asked curiously.

"I have no discrimination, but people who have truly experienced hunger will have a fear of lack engraved in their bones. They show more desire to keep the food in their hands."

"You mean..."

"This kind of person rarely uses small to win big, because they are reluctant to even small things. Many criminals in Arkham are like this. They choose to commit crimes because for them, crime is a thing with almost no cost. Destruction is easier than construction. I want to fight crime but have to invest a lot of money and energy. They are empty-handed white wolves."

"They know that bottom-layer crime cannot cause enough harm. If they want to completely destroy this city, entering the upper layer is a better method. I believe Greed would do so."

"I understand a little." Shiler nodded and said: "Mixing into the upper class has prerequisites. Putting aside external things, one must also learn, spend a lot of time to truly integrate, and do fake to be real."

"That's right, but not everyone has the confidence to learn without production. Confidence needs resources to support, so I said Greed should not have experienced true lack. He wants everything, which just proves that he has the courage to try everything. What kind of person do you think such courage often appears in?"

"Of course, rich people have more." Shiler sighed, because besides Greed, he also thought of Bruce.

"The current Bruce is known as the Gotham Idea King. His one after another jumping ideas and the courage to put these ideas into practice are absolutely not something that can be nurtured in an environment where the city is in danger every day and the world is about to be destroyed at any time."

"The more lacking, the more fragile, and the fault tolerance rate is naturally smaller. Survival instinct will make people step by step and act cautiously. This is a natural law, and it is really hard to avoid."

"What about Pride?" Shiler couldn't help but ask.

"The doctor is another realm." Batman said, leaning back in his chair: "What kind of person do you think would study theology?"

"Full and bored... alright."

"These views are novel." Shiler evaluated very objectively: "I never knew you would look at criminals like this, it's like..."

"Like what?"

"It's like you don't feel strenuous at all when dealing with them. Of course, I'm not saying how difficult it is for you to deal with them, but you don't seem to treat them as your opponents psychologically."

"To some extent, yes. I will treat those who would do the same as him if we swapped positions as opponents, because we just have different positions and interest conflicts. One day the conflict is gone, we can also be friends."

"What about the others? Those who you can't understand even if you swap positions, and won't do the same as them?"

"Just like you said, savior complex."

"You actually admit it?!" Shiler said a bit surprised: "I thought you would feel this point of view is arrogant, like treating yourself as a shepherd or something."

"I will think that anyone who cannot completely become me after swapping with me needs to be saved by me."

"Jesus should come down from the cross, you go up." Shiler sighed sincerely.

"Jesus is included." Batman said.

Shiler sighed, "It can only be said that it's no wonder you and Pride are friends."

And then he said a bit puzzled: "Why did it discuss here again? What does this explain?"

"I'm just saying why I would help Greed." Batman's tone was still very calm, he said: "If you rank the danger level of everyone in this game, Greed should be at the end, because he is actually not hungry at all, eating is just his hobby."

"What about me?"

"All Shilers are not very forward." Batman said: "I said it, you are not hungry, it's all out of interest."

"Then who is it?"

"Although I don't want to admit it, Bruce's ranking is also not high." Batman's tone was slightly lower, he said: "The difference between him and you is that he is better at breaking the bowl after eating."

"I'll take it as you are praising him, then is Joker ranked first?"

"That's for sure."

"Who is higher between the evil Batman and the kind Joker?"

"...... They are on par, but if I have to distinguish between high and low, I would say the evil Batman." Batman thought and said: "His sense of lack is heavier than that Joker."

"Just because he pays too much attention to Bruce? I feel you have prejudice."

Batman shook his head and said: "I don't want to brag that I am completely objective, but Owlman lost more than the Pale Knight lost, but what he gained through loss is less."

"Yes, if you know how happy the Pale Knight lived in his universe, maybe you would envy him."

"It's not easy to make up for Joker's sense of lack. Sometimes I also doubt whether only God can do this. What Joker lacks is not some material things. It is not the poor growth environment that shaped this lunatic. What he lacks is not even love."

Shiler also fell into thought along this line of thinking. Just at this time, he heard Batman ask coldly.

"And what makes me even more confused is you, Shiler. From your form of existence, you shouldn't be so full... who is the one who feeds you?" ===== CHAPTER 3187 =====