Chapter 3309: Not Protection, But Production

Tawana Wan never expected that when she asked Ye Chen a question, he wouldn't answer, but instead turned the question back on her.

The issue of illegal immigrants is about as sensitive as LGBT issues, so she dare not say anything politically incorrect, or she will surely be caught and attacked.

Thus, she said with a solemn expression: "I think the immigration issue should be handled by the U. S. government, as the U. S. has specific laws to deal with such problems, as long as they ensure fairness and justice in law enforcement."

After speaking, she couldn't help but look at Ye Chen with some pride, and asked him in return: "So, Mr. Ye, what is your attitude toward LGBT exactly?"

Ye Chen laughed: "If you insist on leaving everything to the law, then you don't need to ask me about LGBT issues, nor do you need to advocate for anything— isn't everything already covered by law? Matters that can be solved by law should be left to the law; we should do what we ought to do, and not interfere in legal matters."

"……" Tawana was momentarily speechless, never expecting that after she played dumb, Ye Chen would also follow suit and mimic her.

Moreover, she could hear that Ye Chen's words seemed to be criticizing her for meddling in others' affairs.

Just as she didn't know how to respond, Ye Chen continued: "Actually, saying that the illegal immigrant issue should be left to the law is also unfair— at the very least, in your personal treatment of LGBT and illegal immigrants, the position you assign them is unfair."

"There's no unfairness!" Tawana immediately retorted: "My meaning is that every group should be fully respected, and then matched with corresponding laws and regulations, which would make things more secure."

Ye Chen laughed: "You celebrities often come out to urge U. S. states to amend laws for LGBT, but I've never heard of you coming out to urge amendments to laws for illegal immigrants. You demand the government grant LGBT equality, which is good, very humane and very American, but why do you treat LGBT and illegal immigrants differently? Are illegal immigrants not worth your advocacy, or worth having you amend laws for them? Is your distinction based solely on the fact that illegal immigrants lack U. S. citizenship? If your so-called equality is built on the foundation of having U. S. citizenship, then isn't this equality a bit childish?"

"Er……" Tawana was stumped by Ye Chen's series of probing questions. Although she has been a dominant figure in the entertainment industry for years and her singing skills are world-class, the fact that she can deliberately influence fans' values as an idol shows she is not a true believer in Li Jufu. What is Li Jufu? It means that when you put forward any viewpoint, you must have reason and evidence to convince people; if you just shout your demands without being able to explain the specifics, you're basically no different from a hooligan.

After a long, sullen thought, Tawana finally said: "You know, the meaning of the LGBT group is broader; we support LGBT, not just the LGBT in America, but LGBT worldwide."

Ye Chen nodded: "Yes, the illegal immigrants I referred to are not only those who have come to America, but illegal immigrants worldwide, so what difference is there between them?"

Tawana glanced at Ye Chen with a faint look, having thought he would be as easily swayed as the previous two ladies, that she could provoke him into saying a few supportive words and the matter would be smoothly resolved. But she never expected this guy to be a tough nut to crack, arguing with her endlessly.

Seeing her momentarily at a loss for words, Ye Chen then said: "Miss Sveit, if my previous questions were hard to answer, you don't have to answer me, but I do have a question that needs your clear response."

Tawana hurriedly said: "Go ahead."

Ye Chen asked her: "In your view, are illegal immigrants and LGBT equal? You only need to answer me yes or no."

Tawana hesitated again.

Saying they are equal is nonsense.

Most Americans don't like illegal immigrants.

Or one could say, most people living in their own countries in this world won't like illegal immigrants who sneak into their country.

Although this is a fact, it cannot be said that way.

In the West, many things and people you dislike, you cannot say out loud.

Just like, as a woman, you don't want someone dressed as a man to enter the women's restroom with you— this logic is perfectly normal and completely correct, yet you cannot say it out loud.

If you do say it out loud, a whole host of holy mothers will jump out to condemn you: He already looks pitiful dressing as a woman, and after entering the women's restroom he still has to squat to urinate— you still won't let him enter the women's restroom, do you still have a conscience, you bitch?

Tawana grew up and became a superstar in this environment, so she understands these nuances all too well.

Thus, she could only say against her conscience: "I think illegal immigrants and LGBT are equal, after all, everyone is human, and humans should be treated equally."

Ye Chen nodded slightly and said: "It would be great if you could maintain this attitude. I think someone should record our conversation and post it online so everyone knows you also strongly support illegal immigrants, and I recall you almost always publicly support only LGBT at your concerts. I admire and agree with your approach, but since in your view illegal immigrants and LGBT are equal, why have I never heard you publicly speak out for illegal immigrants at your concerts before?"

Tawana said somewhat unnaturally: "In this world, there are more than just these two minority groups, LGBT and illegal immigrants, that need our attention; there are countless other minority groups we should care about, and I couldn't possibly publicly urge everyone at my concerts to pay attention to all minority groups."

"Yes." Ye Chen nodded and asked her: "Since you previously didn't pay attention to illegal immigrants, I naturally won't blame you. Let's put the past behind us and talk only about the present. Since you're holding a concert tonight, can you, at tonight's concert, speak out for illegal immigrants? Can you spare no effort in urging U. S. states and even countries worldwide to improve laws, to provide better humanitarian aid and protection for illegal immigrants?"

As he spoke, without waiting for Tawana's answer, Ye Chen continued: "I've heard that those illegal immigrants in America are themselves penniless, and even seeing a doctor requires them to bear expensive medical costs. Some people, when they fall ill and go to the hospital to see a doctor, the doctor only chats with them for a few sentences and then hands them a bill for several thousand dollars— this is truly inhumane! It's shocking! In our country, the total cost of an early-stage lung cancer removal surgery is only a few thousand dollars, yet American doctors charge illegal immigrants this much just after a brief chat— this is a bit too much, isn't it? I think you really should urge the U. S. government to quickly use taxpayers' money to provide these illegal immigrants with comprehensive humanitarian aid, including but not limited to comfortable living conditions, sufficient food supply, and free comprehensive medical care. What do you think?"

Tawana's expression was already one of stunned disbelief.

She was both surprised that Ye Chen's point of entry was so sharp, and astonished by the series of fantastical things he had just said.

Have herself urge the U. S. government to use taxpayers' money to support illegal immigrants? And have them supported to be white and fat, plump and strong, with no illness or disaster?

If she really said that, would she still be able to return to America later? This would be like snatching a bite of food from the rice bowls of all Americans to give to those illegal immigrants.

Even if she were beaten to death, she could not utter such a statement that would surely be despised by all of America!

Thinking of this, Tawana immediately wanted to end her conversation with Ye Chen as soon as possible.

At worst, she would just not release his video— better than being constantly pressed by him and left speechless.

Thus, she awkwardly coughed twice and said: "Mr. Ye, you indeed have a humanitarian spirit, but I think such matters should still be left to the U. S. government to handle. What I can do is urge people not to discriminate against each other."

Tawana's boyfriend, Trevor, seeing his beloved constantly being one-upped by Ye Chen, immediately said: "Mr. Ye, you ultimately still haven't answered Tawana's question. The reason you keep bringing up the illegal immigrant issue so aggressively is, at bottom, still to indirectly indicate that deep down in your heart, you actually don't support LGBT at all. Am I right?"

Hearing her boyfriend speak up for her and instantly shift from passive to active, Tawana breathed a sigh of relief, and at the same time looked at Trevor with a face full of affection, thinking in her heart: "This is my man— at critical moments, he can shield me from everything!"

Thus, she turned to Ye Chen, seizing the moment to strike: "Mr. Ye, LGBT people face discrimination in many places, so we must openly and unreservedly support them to ensure they have equal rights. If everyone were like you, unwilling to show their stance or give them support, then where would their future lie?"

At this moment, Ye Chen looked at Trevor, smiled, and said: "I'm not clear on what your LGBT specifically stands for, but I can clearly tell you and Miss Sveit that I respect everyone's sexual orientation, after all, it's each person's own choice, and also each person's private life. Since it's private life, it's not really appropriate to always bring it into public settings for discussion;"

As he spoke, he looked at Trevor and asked: "Do you like men or women?"

Trevor furrowed his brow and instinctively said: "Of course I like women!"

Ye Chen laughed: "You can also like men— that's your freedom. If you truly like men, I also understand and respect that."

"I really don't like men……"

Trevor blurted out an explanation, but Ye Chen didn't give him the chance, continuing: "You don't need to explain to me— you can like men, I just think you shouldn't run into the streets every day shouting that you like men, or even go encourage other men to like men as you do, after all, there are still many children on the streets, and their values are easily influenced by young idols. When you Western rock bands and hippies took pride in using banned substances, what was the result? The result is that now, every year over a hundred thousand people in America die from banned substances!"

"If minors are influenced by you and make the wrong choice in sexual orientation, or even choose irreversible gender reassignment surgery, will you take responsibility for them? Obviously not!"

"So, sexual orientation is inherently an adult topic— whether one supports or opposes it, it should not be discussed in public. You constantly bring up these topics in public, which is itself irresponsible toward society!"

"Moreover, you don't just stop at publicly discussing this— you often come with incitement and encouragement!"

Trevor quickly waved his hands: "I didn't…… I didn't……"

Ye Chen said coldly: "I've seen the news— you even incited individual states to pass bills allowing minors to bypass parental supervision and freely change gender, and there are even special funds providing them with surgery costs— this isn't encouragement, what is it?"

Saying this, Ye Chen's tone grew somewhat aggressive and stern: "In my view, your behavior is no longer about protecting sexual minorities— it's about producing sexual minorities! You aim to artificially mass-produce more LGBT to expand this group! What is your real intention in doing this?"