Chapter 256: Analysis of the Wheel of Time [Two in One]

"First is Unknown Lies."

"This is very easy to understand, it is exactly a lie that has not formed a Deceiver's Tongue."

"A Deceiver's Tongue must have an objective basis. Assume you have a twin sister, she is called Qiu Yihan. You say you are called Qiu Yihan, and also take out your sister's ID Card. Witness, physical evidence, and language are all there, hence a Deceiver's Tongue is born."

"And an Unknown Lie is, you say you are called Qiu Yihan, but you also cannot take out Qiu Yihan's ID Card to prove you are Qiu Yihan. This is an Unknown Lie."

"The Judgment of an Unknown Lie is, the person who manufactured the Unknown Lie definitely lied. Before the Unknown Lie is cracked, for the rest of the people to say you are called Qiu Yihan does not constitute lying. If the Unknown Lie is broken, for the rest of the players to again say you are called Qiu Yihan is exactly lying."

This point, towards Chen Ran and Qiu Yinong, was all very easy to understand.

The key point lay in...

"What needs to be said next, is the distinction between an Unknown Lie and a normal lie."

"The person who lies, as well as the person who manufactures the Unknown Lie, are both liars, this point is without a doubt. The key is the followers."

Facing this question, Qiu Yinong slightly pondered and said: "When evidence, which is exactly a person or object that can prove I am called Qiu Yinong, in any time, any memory, any scene, has appeared, the Unknown Lie will become a normal lie."

Simply put, as long as evidence that can prove she is not called Qiu Yihan has appeared, then the Unknown Lie will become a normal lie.

Keyword: Has appeared.

This [has appeared], regardless of whether you lost your memory, whether time is disordered, whether you saw it with your own eyes, whether doubt exists.

As long as it has appeared, the Unknown Lie will automatically become a normal lie, which is exactly the Unknown Lie being cracked.

"Not bad, this logic must definitely be clarified. Previously Diwu Zeyi said, for players of Three-Star and above, the mainstream of their Lie-Judgment is exactly Unknown Lies."

"Further connecting with what he said, Four-Star and above players will use physical Lie-Judgment."

"Then, the Lie-Judgment models of the various star ratings in the entirety of Hell become very clear."

"One to Three-Star, usually use emotional Lie-Judgment. For example utilizing Id Tier Skills to trick out the opponent's lie. The Three-Stars in here do not include First Realm of Lingtai players."

"Four to Six-Star, use physical-type Skills as supplementary, Unknown Lies as primary, to carry out Common Sense Deception. This also includes Three-Star First Realm of Lingtai players inside."

"Seven to Nine-Star, are highly likely using Superego Skills as supplementary, Unknown Lies as primary, to carry out Affective Lie-Judgment."

"As for Ten-Star, at this time, Ten-Star Players' Mental State has arrived at the Superego, immune to Id Skills, immune to Ego Skills. As for whether they can be immune to Superego Skills..."

"Then I do not know."

Qiu Yinong frowned. She discovered Hell's Mental Cultivation Method was overly overpowered.

Diwu Zeyi was an Id Mental State, so he could be immune to Id Tier Skills.

By the same logic, if a high-star player is an Ego Mental State, they can be immune to Id Skills as well as Ego Skills.

Then, for a Superego Mental State, wouldn't it mean they can be immune to all Skills aside from True Self?

"I'm very curious. What Ego Tier Skills manufacture are basically all physical entities. For an Ego Mental State which is exactly a Second Realm of Lingtai player, how do they become immune to physical entities?" Qiu Yinong asked.

Yeah, a physical entity appears in front of you, could it be you cannot see it?

If you cannot see it, does it mean you also cannot touch it?

Since you cannot touch it, then is this thing still a physical entity?

Isn't it self-contradictory?

"I feel, Second Realm of Lingtai which is exactly Ego Mental State players, should have a kind of perception similar to super memory. Simply put, when an Ego Skill is used, they sweep a glance and can immediately know what thing is manufactured by a Skill, and what thing originally existed in the Secret Room."

Qiu Yinong shook her head: "Your description is not very accurate. It should be the degree of sensitivity towards Common Sense. Players like us who haven't done Heart Cultivation have a low sensitivity towards Common Sense. After all, it being too common makes it easy to be overlooked instead. But towards Ego Mental State players, their sensitivity towards changes in Common Sense is extremely high. Any minute change in Common Sense as well as within Common Sense, they can easily perceive. Therefore in the eyes of bystanders, they are immune to Ego Skills."

"By the same logic, a Superego Mental State is also not being unaffected by Superego Skills, but rather their Mental State can allow them to cognitively realize they are situated within a Superego Skill."

Speaking up to here, both people frowned. Heart Cultivation truly was a BUG-like existence.

"Perhaps, it's also affected by levels. For example a low-star Ego Player cannot be immune to a high-star Ego Skill." Chen Ran added.

Only like this would Heart Cultivation appear to not be that much of a BUG.

However, the two weren't that optimistic. This point was temporarily left in doubt. Wait until their star rating became higher in the future, then what they understood would become more.

"Next, let's talk about our errors in this Instance."

"First is Lin Xiuyuan. This guy really shocked me. Silently and without a sound, laying out a divine-level layout."

"Utilizing a Substitute Doll to replace himself in completing a Deceiver's Tongue. If it wasn't for us scoring a lucky hit by mistake, it's estimated we would have been thoroughly outplayed by him."

"Players having this kind of Skill, or using this kind of method, it's estimated we will still encounter many from now on. How should it be avoided?"

Qiu Yinong asked rhetorically: "When you are not sure of a player's identity, how do you Avoid Lying?"

"Names. I will change the [you] involved in the dialogue into names. For example in The Tunnel, when I was talking with Diwu Zeyi of another space, I wouldn't say [you], but rather say [Diwu Zeyi] did this and that. Only if I could be sure the mentioned event was done by the person in front of my eyes would I use [you]."

The Hospital fell into silence.

Chen Ran was smoking a Cigarette, Qiu Yinong chewed Chewing Gum. Simply because in their view, if it was reversed, after knowing a player's name in the first Secret Room and still using [you], but with mental-type Skills existing, this form of address [you] would have big problems.

After all, you cannot know if the object you are speaking to is a person. If it's a phantom and you use [you], you will be judged as lying.

If you directly say the player's [name], a name Deceiver's Tongue might exist, and you cannot know when this Deceiver's Tongue is broken.

"Right, Long Hui, he is a Ghost Whisperer, and according to our deduction, his name seems to have a Deceiver's Tongue. But in fact for the entire Instance, his Deceiver's Tongue was never broken."

"Your meaning is?" Qiu Yinong said suspiciously: "Long Hui's Deceiver's Tongue, is in the 18th Level. Even if it is to be broken, it is also broken in the 18th Level, unable to be cracked in an Instance."

"Not bad." Chen Ran nodded: "If a name Deceiver's Tongue is constructed within an Instance, related evidence will definitely be shown to us. If it is not shown, it is an Unknown Lie. Therefore as long as we pay attention to details, we can discover the clues."

"Taking Lin Xiuyuan's Deceiver's Tongue as an example, wasn't it also deduced by us?"

"Then from now on, in Instances, I will be responsible for noticing this category of details. Anyway in the early stages I'm basically a little transparent person." Qiu Yinong proposed. Only like this could they avoid being pitted by Lin Xiuyuan's kind of divine-level layout.

"En. Next is the Lie-Judgment of your Skill."

"First, the first time you said the Skill command password, it was in the normal timeline. But when Wheel of Time ended, you actually weren't judged as a liar."

Simply put, Qiu Yinong saying [I lied] was on the normal timeline.

But after the Skill ended, the timeline she manufactured disappeared, but she actually hadn't lied.

This explains, the two timelines before using the Skill and after the Skill ends are...

Different!

"But, when you Judged one by one, what you Judged was whether players lied on the timeline before using the Skill, as well as whether anyone lied on the currently manufactured timeline."

"Your meaning is saying, when my Skill effect exists, there are two timelines. One is the timeline before using the Skill, and one is the time just manufactured by the Skill?"

"And, on the second timeline, any lies I said within the five minutes on the first timeline will be erased, but it won't erase the lies said by the victims at any time on the first timeline?"

"Not bad!" Chen Ran nodded.

Immediately Chen Ran started to analyze.

Assume.

First time using Wheel of Time.

Before using the Skill is: Time A.

After using the Skill is: Time B.

Time A: If she wants to use the Skill, she must say [I lied]. That is to say, in this time, she lied.

Time B: For Qiu Yinong, Time A disappeared, she does not have a lie.

But for other players, Time A hasn't disappeared. Their lies in Time A still take effect in Time B.

Only like this can it logically explain how Qiu Yinong could Judge one by one, to see who lied in Time A.

To put it more simply.

After Wheel of Time is used.

Qiu Yinong: Has a unique timeline on her body. Time B manufactured by the Skill replaces the original Time A. By the same logic, Time C manufactured by the Skill will replace Time B.

And so on.

Victims: Have two timelines on their body. One is Time A, the other is the just manufactured Time B. If Qiu Yinong uses Wheel of Time again, then the two times on the victim's body are:

Time A and Time C.

Using Wheel of Time again:

Time A and Time D.

Using Wheel of Time again:

Time A and Time E.

And so on.

Looking at the results Chen Ran analyzed on the paper, Qiu Yinong's eyes became brighter and brighter.

"In this, there is very large room for operation, needing us to slowly develop."

"For example, a player used a Skill in Time A. In Time B, due to temporary amnesia leading him to forget he had used a Skill, then as long as he says words like [I haven't used any Skills before this], he will definitely be judged as lying. However the time the player used the Skill must be within your reset five minutes. You are the one doing the Lie-Judgment, you must precisely grasp this time difference."

This was a use of Wheel of Time summarized by Chen Ran based on killing Dorje.

Not only Skills. As long as the words said by a player within the five minutes in Time A are denied in Time B or CDEF, then they will definitely be judged as lying.

In other words, Qiu Yinong's Lie-Judgment will become extremely easy.

Thinking of this, Chen Ran silently smoked a Cigarette, lowering his head to look at his own Liar-Slayer.

'Big bro, look at other people's Superego Skills, to what degree of perverted they have reached.'

'You are a True Self Skill at any rate. Going back to the 18th Level this time and upgrading you to Three-Star, can you give some useful effects ah?'

Chen Ran felt it wasn't too possible. Upgrading was nothing more than a prolongation in time.

Thus...

He gave the Liar-Slayer's muzzle a big slap: Disappointing thing!

...

Seeing Qiu Yinong wake up from her deep thoughts.

Chen Ran continued with the next topic: "Regarding language-type Deceiver's Tongues, I feel there is still no need to discuss them right now. After all, regarding the logic inside, I estimate even Diwu Zeyi and the others are not too clear. The information they provided temporarily does not possess any reference value."

"Next is the Battle of the Two Alliances. Looking from the coaxed information, the Battle of the Two Alliances is after the Hundred Ghost Feast. Diwu Zeyi said they are adjacent. The 9th True Self Player said what Diwu Zeyi said was fake."

"Through hunting down Lin Xuan, we theoretically have already avoided the possibility of the First Floor Master personally coming down to the field to hunt us. Therefore the focal point of this discussion lies in whether to avoid the First Floor Master's Hunter Team or a Four-Star team?"

After discussing, the two felt whether they avoided it or not didn't have much meaning. Not avoiding it meant they would participate in the Battle of the Two Alliances, with bountiful Rewards. If they avoided it, although relatively safe, the speed of acquiring Points would be much slower.

Each had its pros and cons.

In short, let it be according to fate. Replenishing their spirits sufficiently in the Instance, after the review ended, they would just go out, no need to deliberately avoid it.

Next, it was again some corrections on details. For example the text Qiu Yinong previously left on the Sobering Agent had to be changed.

For example calculating the Points this time.

Chen Ran checked just now, and discovered this Instance surprisingly had 38 Points.

It was also very easy to understand.

Normal Instance 18 players all died.

Past Instance 20 players all died.

Exactly 38 Points.

From this it could be proven, the extra Points they obtained in the previous Instance was a problem of the Instance's difficulty, and not other reasons.

Approximately two and a half hours passed.

The two checked for omissions and made up for deficiencies, also repeatedly deliberating as well as reviewing, confirming there were no problems.

The information obtained in this Instance was very much.

For example, regarding the First Floor Master's Skill, Diwu Zeyi obscurely revealed it was related to memory.

But it was kept in doubt.

So they didn't do excessive discussion on it.

Also, the method to carve rules on the stone pillars, as well as the path to becoming a Floor Master of the Liar-Slayer Alliance or Deceiver Alliance.

The former, the two did not consider. Even if he knew the method, Chen Ran couldn't possibly go carve rules on the stone pillar during his Newbie period.

The latter, the two inferred, was highly likely related to Death-Speakers. For example, wanting to become an Alliance Floor Master, one must have a copy of the "Common Sense Manual" with the final rule written down in hand.

Confirming there was nothing else to review.

The two got up and were about to exit the Instance. But having just walked a few steps, Chen Ran suddenly stopped his footsteps.

"What is it?"

Chen Ran smiled and didn't speak, walking into the Heart Ward, arriving in front of Diwu Zeyi's corpse.

From Diwu Zeyi's corpse, he fished out Baili Qiangsheng's Lighter.

He lit a Cigarette, smiling towards the headless corpse: "What you said was not bad. If I wanted to take back my own Lighter, I could only fish it back from your corpse."

Saying this, he stood the just-lit Cigarette up in front of the headless corpse, turning around and walking out of the ward.